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'No one more committed': Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin calls for community change in sit-down with 米兰体育 13 Anchor Guy Rawlings

'No one more committed': Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin calls for community change in sit-down with 米兰体育 13 Anchor Guy Rawlings
GUY. SHERRY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH, JARVIS. BACK HERE AT HOME, 151. THAT IS HOW MANY HOMICIDES THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM INVESTIGATED IN 2024, BREAKING A RECORD THAT HAS STOOD SINCE BEFORE WORLD WAR TWO. OBVIOUSLY, THAT鈥橲 CAUSE FOR CONCERN FOR RESIDENTS AND CITY OFFICIALS ALIKE. I RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH THE TOP CITY OFFICIAL, MAYOR RANDALL WOODFIN, TO TALK ABOUT THESE AND OTHER ISSUES FACING THE CITY. HE TELLS ME HE TAKES EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITHIN BIRMINGHAM鈥橲 BORDERS PERSONALLY. ACCORDING TO U.S. NEWS AND WORLD REPORT, BIRMINGHAM IS THE FOURTH MOST DANGEROUS CITY IN THE COUNTRY. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT鈥橲 A FAIR ASSESSMENT? YOU KNOW, AS, AS A AS A BROTHER WHO LOST HIS BROTHER TO GUN VIOLENCE, AS A UNCLE WHO LOST A NEPHEW TO GUN VIOLENCE, AS A SON THAT STILL HAS A GRIEVING MOTHER, I THINK I DON鈥橳 THINK OF THIS AS STATS AND NUMBERS. I THINK ABOUT MY OWN FAMILY. I THINK ABOUT MY OWN FAMILY MEMBER, A FIRST COUSIN WHO LOST NOT ONE BUT TWO CHILDREN IN THE CITY LIMITS OF BIRMINGHAM TO GUN VIOLENCE AT TWO SEPARATE TIMES IN 2024. THAT鈥橲 UNBEARABLE. THE PAIN, THE WEIGHT, THE RAW HURT AND EMOTION THAT SCORES OF FAMILIES HAVE HAD TO LIVE WITH AND HAVE HAD TO, UNFORTUNATELY, JOIN MY FAMILY AND HOW THAT FEELS. THAT鈥橲 AWFUL FOR FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. THERE IS NOBODY THERE鈥橲 NOBODY MORE COMMITTED THAN I AM IN MAKING SURE MORE FAMILIES DON鈥橳 FEEL THAT WAY. PART OF THAT COMMITMENT WAS TO APPOINT A BIRMINGHAM CRIME COMMISSION TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THE CITY鈥橲 GROWING RATE OF HOMICIDES. THEY CAME UP WITH FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TARGET THE PROBLEM. LET鈥橲 GO THROUGH THE SOLUTIONS AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE. HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GET MORE COPS ON THE STREET? WE GOT TO BE REAL GUY. WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS NOT A BIRMINGHAM PROBLEM ALONE. NATIONWIDE, MID AND LARGE SIZED CITIES HAVE HAD BEEN SHORT OF OFFICERS. OFFICERS GOT BEAT UP. POST-GEORGE FLOYD FOR THREE YEARS, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE EXPECT THAT A NEW GENERATION JUST WANTS TO BE OFFICERS. WE HAVE TO REORIENT OURSELVES AROUND HOW DO WE CREATE A NEW GENERATION OF OFFICERS, NO DIFFERENT THAN HOW DO HOSPITALS CREATE A NEW GENERATION OF NURSES WHO ARE SHORT? HOW DO SUPERINTENDENTS AND PRINCIPALS CREATE A NEW GENERATION OF TEACHERS WHO ARE ALSO SHORT? AND SO OUR FRONTLINE WORKERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, ETC. TEACHERS, NURSES, POLICE OFFICERS, WE鈥橵E GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TALK WITH THEM. WE BELIEVE THE $16 MILLION PACKAGE INCLUDES THE BEST WAY OF HOW TO ENGAGE THEM, HOW TO RECRUIT, WHERE TO RECRUIT, HOW TO MESSAGE, HOW TO COMMUNICATE, ETC. WE鈥橰E ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT WE ENDED 2024 WITH THE HIGHEST RECRUITING WE鈥橵E HAD SINCE 2020. THE $16 MILLION RETAINMENT AND RECRUITMENT PACKAGE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL INCLUDES A SIGNING BONUS, QUARTERLY BONUSES AND A TAKE HOME CAR PROGRAM FOR OFFICERS LIVING WITHIN CITY LIMITS. HOW ABOUT THE GLOCK SWITCHES? WHAT CAN BE DONE HERE TO MAKE THEM BAN GLOCK SWITCHES IN MONTGOMERY? I MEAN, IT HAS TO COME FROM THE STATE, RIGHT? THESE CONVERSION DEVICES HARM AND HURT PEOPLE AT THE MAXIMUM LEVEL, AND IT ENDS UP BEING A LOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU CAN鈥橳 CONTROL THE GUN. IT ENDS UP SPRAYING BULLETS IN A FEW SECONDS. THAT鈥橲 NOT MEANT FOR OUR DOMESTIC STREETS. I DON鈥橳 CARE WHAT YOU SAY. I DON鈥橳 CARE WHAT YOUR PARTY IS. NONE OF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. THEREFORE, WE NEED A STATE LAW THAT BANS THEM. WHAT THAT DOES IS EMPOWER LOCAL POLICE, LOCAL SHERIFFS, LOCAL DA鈥橲 STATE JUDGES TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE THE POWER TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GO AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT SELL, MANUFACTURE AND POSSESS THEM. AS FAR AS COLLABORATION WITH COUNTY, STATE AND FEDERAL AUTHORITIES, THE MAYOR POINTS TO 2020 OPERATION NITRO AS EVIDENCE. THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING. THAT WAS A COORDINATED EFFORT TO LITERALLY TAMP DOWN ON THE EXHIBITION DRIVE, AND THEY STARTED MAKING ARRESTS. I KNOW BECAUSE YOU ALL START REPORTING ON IT. THAT鈥橲 AN EXAMPLE OF SUCCESS, AND THAT SUCCESS IS ROOTED 100% IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES SUCH AS THE SHERIFF鈥橲 OFFICE. WE PARTNERED WITH THE ATF, WE PARTNERED WITH FBI, WE PARTNERED WITH DEA. MY POSITION IS NONPARTISAN. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WHEN IT COMES TO THE MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MATTER OF KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE, THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS THROUGH PARTNERSHIP, AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS SET. PARTIZAN POLITICS ASIDE, BECAUSE NO ONE CARES. THEY JUST WANT TO BE SAFE, FEEL SAFE. AND THAT鈥橲 WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE. HE ALSO TALKED ABOUT EDUCATIONAL AND WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES. WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THAT WILL KEEP YOUNG PEOPLE FROM DOING CRIME? ONE WE NEED OUR PARENTS. YOUR CHILD HAS TO GO TO SCHOOL. SCHOOL IS NOT AN OPTION. WE NEED -- IN THE SEATS. THEY HAVE TO LEARN IT鈥橲 THE SAFEST PLACES FOR THEM, THE SAFEST PLACE FOR THEM TO BE. WHEN SCHOOL IS IN. IN THE SUMMERTIME. WE NEED MORE ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS. THEY NEED TO BE ROBUST. WE NEED A BETTER UNIFIED SPORTS PROGRAMS FOR OUR CHILDREN THAT THEY CAN MATRICULATE AT EVERY LEVEL, NOT JUST SPORTS, BUT ARTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR OUR YOUNG BOYS. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO YOUNG BLACK MEN, I AM VERY, VERY SINCERE IN WHAT I鈥橫 ABOUT TO TELL YOU. WE GOT TO EMPLOY THEM. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO FOLKS WHO SAY IT鈥橲 THE SAME OLD PROBLEMS WITH THE SAME OLD SOLUTIONS? WE鈥橪L DO EVERYTHING WE CAN, BUT LET鈥橲 ADMIT BIRMINGHAM, SOME OF THIS GOES BEYOND POLICING AND GOVERNMENT. WE NEED FAMILIES TO BE FAMILIES. WE NEED PARENTS TO BE PARENTS. WE NEED COMMUNITY TO BE COMMUNITY. WE NEED THE CULTURE TO CHANGE. THERE鈥橲 A CULTURE OF RETALIATION THAT EXISTS IN THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM. THERE鈥橲 A CULTURE OF NO SNITCHING. IN BIRMINGHAM. WE GOT TO BREAK THAT UP. THERE鈥橲 A CULTURE OF COMPLACENCY AND AND NOT SENDING OUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL AND JUST LETTING THEM ROAM THE STREETS. WE鈥橵E GOT TO BREAK THAT UP. CULTURE IS HARD TO CHANGE. CULTURE IS ALWAYS HARD TO CHANGE. BUT THAT DOESN鈥橳 MEAN WE SHOULDN鈥橳 FIGHT TO MAKE CULTURE BETTER. IT JUST TAKES CONSISTENT WORK. WE END UP DOING THE SPIDER-MAN MEME, WHERE EVERYONE POINTS AT THE OTHER PERSON AND SAYS, NO, IT鈥橲 YOUR JOB. NO, IT鈥橲 YOUR JOB. YOU. YOU鈥橰E RESPONSIBLE. I鈥橫 THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BIRMINGHAM. I鈥橫 A LEADER, AND I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE THINGS I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND I AM COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS CITY SAFER. BUT I NEED EVERY ADULT WALKING ALONGSIDE ME TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT IT CANNOT BE JUST ONE PERSON. AND I鈥橫 TELLING YOU, IT CAN鈥橳 JUST BE THE POLICE. NOW, IN THE LAST YEAR OF HIS SECOND TERM, HOW DOES WOODFIN RATE THE JOB HE鈥橲 DONE AS MAYOR? IS IT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ANOTHER TERM? I THINK THAT I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING I CAN, DOING EVERYTHING I CAN AND WILL CONTINUE AND COMMITTED TO DO MORE. ALL THREE. AND HE HOPES TO DO MORE AS HE鈥橲 RUNNING FOR A THIRD TERM. THE MAYOR TOLD ME WHILE WE BROKE A RECORD ON THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IN THE CITY, THE YEAR ENDED WITH CRIME DOWN IN ALL OTHER CATEGORIES. AS FOR NEXT STEPS IN IMPLEMENTING THE COMMISSION REPORT, THE MAYOR DIDN鈥橳 PROVIDE AN EXACT TIMELINE. HE DID TELL ME TONIGHT THEIR BPD RECRUITING EFFORTS ARE WORKING. APPLICATIONS ARE UP AND 90 PEOPLE ARE BEING VETTED FOR ADVANCEMENT INTO THEIR MARCH 2025 CLASS. RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN FIND MY FULL 25 MINUTE CONVERSATION WITH MAYOR WOODFIN ON OUR WEBSITE OR THE FREE 米兰体育 13 APP. WE ALSO BREAK DOWN THE CRIME COMMISSION REPORT SECTION BY SECTION, TO HELP YOU GET A BETT
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'No one more committed': Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin calls for community change in sit-down with 米兰体育 13 Anchor Guy Rawlings
As part of our commitment to the truth and holding our elected officials accountable, 米兰体育 13 Anchor Guy Rawlings sat down with Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin to address the challenges and solutions that face his commitment to making Birmingham safer.Watch the full sit-down interview with 米兰体育 13 Guy Rawlings in the video player below.A fair assessment?Birmingham is the fourth-most dangerous city in the country, according to the U.S. News and World Report.We asked Woodfin if he felt like this was a true representation of his city. "You know, as a brother who lost a brother to gun violence, as an uncle who lost a nephew to gun violence, as a son that still has a grieving mother, I don't think of this as stats and numbers," Woodfin said."I think about my own family. I think about my own family member, a first cousin who lost not one, but two children in the city limits of Birmingham to gun violence at two separate times in 2024."It's unbearable. The pain, the weight, the raw hurt and the emotion that scores of families have had to live with and have had to, unfortunately, join my family.""That's awful for families in our community. There's nobody more committed than I am in making sure more families don't feel that way."Finding solutionsPart of that commitment was to appoint a Birmingham Crime Commission to find solutions to the city鈥檚 growing rate of homicides. They came up with five recommendations to target the problem. We walked through each of them with Woodfin. How do you get more cops on the street? "We got to be real, Guy. We have to acknowledge that this is not a Birmingham problem. Nationwide, large cities have been short of officers. Officers got beat up after George Floyd for three years. They got beat up. And then all of a sudden, we expect that a new generation just wants to be officers.""We have to reorient ourselves around how do we create a new generation of officers, no different than how do hospitals create a new generation of nurses who are short? How do superintendents and principals create a new generation of teachers who are also short? And so our frontline workers, first responders, etc., teachers, nurses, police officers, we've got to figure out a way to talk with them.""We believe the $16 million package includes the best way of how to engage them. How to recruit, where to recruit, how to message, how to communicate, etc. We're encouraged by the fact that we ended 2024 with the highest recruiting we've had since 2020."The $16 million retainment and recruitment package approved by the city council includes a signing bonus, quarterly bonuses, and a take-home car program for officers living within city limits.What can be done to make them end Glock switches in Montgomery? "These conversion devices harm and hurt people at the maximum level, and it ends up being a lot of innocent people. Because you can't control the gun and it ends up spraying bullets in a few seconds. That's not meant for our domestic streets. I don't care what you say. I don't care what your party is. None of that makes any sense.""Therefore, we need a state law that bans them. What that does is empower local police, local sheriffs, local DA's state judges to have the flexibility to have the power to have the resources to go after the people that sell, manufacture and possess them."CollaborationAs far as collaboration with county, state, and federal authorities, the mayor points to 2020鈥檚 鈥淥peration Nitro鈥� as evidence this is already happening."That was a coordinated effort to literally tamp down exhibition driving," Woodfin said. "They started making arrests. I know because you watched our reporting on it. The point I'm making is the success. That's an example of success. And that success is rooted 100% in collaboration with other agencies such as the sheriff's office. We partnered with the ATF. We partner with FBI, we partner with DEA.""My position is nonpartisan. I want to be very clear when it comes to the matter of public safety, when it comes to the matter of keeping people safe. The only way to do is through partnership and the only way to do that is set partisan politics aside because no one cares. They just want to be safe, feel safe and that's what we need to provide."What do you envision that will keep young people from doing crime? "One, we need our parents," Woodfin said. "We encourage our parents, we impress upon our parents. Your child has to go to school. Your child has to be in school. They can't skip school. They can't miss school. School is not an option. We need butts in the seats. They have to learn. It's the safest places for the safest place for them to be when school is in, in the summertime."We need a better unified sports programs for our children, that they can matriculate at every level. We need more enrichment programs, whether it's not just sports, but, arts and everything else. We have to make sure we do everything we can for our young boys.""And then when it comes a young Black man, I am very, very sincere in what I'm about to tell you. We got to employ them. We say, well, that sounds simple. In 2025, a livable wage for any human being, male, female to take care of themselves is $22 an hour. I want to create a robust job plan in partnership with businesses in this community. I don't care if they're small, midsize and large. That says if you employ these men, I'll split it with you. You pay them $11 an hour and City of Birmingham will match that $11. We got to get them gainfully employed."How do you respond to people who say it's the same old problems with the same old solutions? "We'll do everything we can," Woodfin said. "But let's admit, Birmingham, that some of this goes beyond policing and government. We need families to be families. We need parents to be parents. We need community to be community. We need the village to be the village."We need the culture to change. There's a culture of retaliation that exists in the city of Birmingham. We got to break that up. There's a culture of no snitching in Birmingham. We got to break that up. There's a culture of complacency and and not sending our children to school and just letting them roam the street. We got to break that up." "Culture is always hard to change. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't fight to make culture better. It just takes consistent work.""We end up doing the Spider-Man meme where everyone point at, the other person says, no is your job or no is your job. You you're responsible. I'm the mayor of the city of Birmingham. I'm a leader, and I take responsibility for the things I am responsible for. And I am committed to making this city safer. I need every adult walking alongside me to do that because it cannot be just one person. And I'm telling you, it can't just be the police."How do you rate the job you've done as mayor?Woodfin pointed to achievements like the Birmingham Promise鈥攕ending BCS students to any state college or university tuition-free, $60 million in infrastructure investment to repave roads and removing blight. And despite a record year for homicides, he pointed out that overall crime in the city is down.Is that good enough for another term?"I think that I have done everything I can and doing everything I can will continue and I鈥檓 committed to do more.""Serving as mayor, of my hometown as a son of Birmingham is an amazing opportunity to make your city and your communities better," Woodfin said. "I grew up right here, a family that literally lives all over this city. There is a strong commitment to make it safer.""We can do that when everybody keeps their head out of the sand. Everybody is in it and committed together."

As part of our commitment to the truth and holding our elected officials accountable, 米兰体育 13 Anchor Guy Rawlings sat down with Birmingham Mayor Randall Woodfin to address the challenges and solutions that face his commitment to making Birmingham safer.

Watch the full sit-down interview with 米兰体育 13 Guy Rawlings in the video player below.

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A fair assessment?

Birmingham is the fourth-most dangerous city in the country, according to the U.S. News and World Report.

We asked Woodfin if he felt like this was a true representation of his city.

"You know, as a brother who lost a brother to gun violence, as an uncle who lost a nephew to gun violence, as a son that still has a grieving mother, I don't think of this as stats and numbers," Woodfin said.

"I think about my own family. I think about my own family member, a first cousin who lost not one, but two children in the city limits of Birmingham to gun violence at two separate times in 2024.

"It's unbearable. The pain, the weight, the raw hurt and the emotion that scores of families have had to live with and have had to, unfortunately, join my family."

"That's awful for families in our community. There's nobody more committed than I am in making sure more families don't feel that way."

Finding solutions

Part of that commitment was to appoint a to find solutions to the city鈥檚 growing rate of homicides.

They came up with five recommendations to target the problem. We walked through each of them with Woodfin.

How do you get more cops on the street?

"We got to be real, Guy. We have to acknowledge that this is not a Birmingham problem. Nationwide, large cities have been short of officers. Officers got beat up after George Floyd for three years. They got beat up. And then all of a sudden, we expect that a new generation just wants to be officers."

"We have to reorient ourselves around how do we create a new generation of officers, no different than how do hospitals create a new generation of nurses who are short? How do superintendents and principals create a new generation of teachers who are also short? And so our frontline workers, first responders, etc., teachers, nurses, police officers, we've got to figure out a way to talk with them."

"We believe the $16 million package includes the best way of how to engage them. How to recruit, where to recruit, how to message, how to communicate, etc. We're encouraged by the fact that we ended 2024 with the highest recruiting we've had since 2020."

The $16 million retainment and recruitment package approved by the city council includes a signing bonus, quarterly bonuses, and a take-home car program for officers living within city limits.

What can be done to make them end Glock switches in Montgomery?

"These conversion devices harm and hurt people at the maximum level, and it ends up being a lot of innocent people. Because you can't control the gun and it ends up spraying bullets in a few seconds. That's not meant for our domestic streets. I don't care what you say. I don't care what your party is. None of that makes any sense."

"Therefore, we need a state law that bans them. What that does is empower local police, local sheriffs, local DA's state judges to have the flexibility to have the power to have the resources to go after the people that sell, manufacture and possess them."

Collaboration

As far as collaboration with county, state, and federal authorities, the mayor points to 2020鈥檚 鈥淥peration Nitro鈥� as evidence this is already happening.

"That was a coordinated effort to literally tamp down exhibition driving," Woodfin said. "They started making arrests. I know because you watched our reporting on it. The point I'm making is the success. That's an example of success. And that success is rooted 100% in collaboration with other agencies such as the sheriff's office. We partnered with the ATF. We partner with FBI, we partner with DEA."

"My position is nonpartisan. I want to be very clear when it comes to the matter of public safety, when it comes to the matter of keeping people safe. The only way to do is through partnership and the only way to do that is set partisan politics aside because no one cares. They just want to be safe, feel safe and that's what we need to provide."

What do you envision that will keep young people from doing crime?

"One, we need our parents," Woodfin said. "We encourage our parents, we impress upon our parents. Your child has to go to school. Your child has to be in school. They can't skip school. They can't miss school. School is not an option. We need butts in the seats. They have to learn. It's the safest places for the safest place for them to be when school is in, in the summertime.

"We need a better unified sports programs for our children, that they can matriculate at every level. We need more enrichment programs, whether it's not just sports, but, arts and everything else. We have to make sure we do everything we can for our young boys."

"And then when it comes a young Black man, I am very, very sincere in what I'm about to tell you. We got to employ them. We say, well, that sounds simple. In 2025, a livable wage for any human being, male, female to take care of themselves is $22 an hour. I want to create a robust job plan in partnership with businesses in this community. I don't care if they're small, midsize and large. That says if you employ these men, I'll split it with you. You pay them $11 an hour and City of Birmingham will match that $11. We got to get them gainfully employed."

How do you respond to people who say it's the same old problems with the same old solutions?

"We'll do everything we can," Woodfin said. "But let's admit, Birmingham, that some of this goes beyond policing and government. We need families to be families. We need parents to be parents. We need community to be community. We need the village to be the village.

"We need the culture to change. There's a culture of retaliation that exists in the city of Birmingham. We got to break that up. There's a culture of no snitching in Birmingham. We got to break that up. There's a culture of complacency and and not sending our children to school and just letting them roam the street. We got to break that up."

"Culture is always hard to change. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't fight to make culture better. It just takes consistent work."

"We end up doing the Spider-Man meme where everyone point at, the other person says, no is your job or no is your job. You you're responsible. I'm the mayor of the city of Birmingham. I'm a leader, and I take responsibility for the things I am responsible for. And I am committed to making this city safer. I need every adult walking alongside me to do that because it cannot be just one person. And I'm telling you, it can't just be the police."

How do you rate the job you've done as mayor?

Woodfin pointed to achievements like the Birmingham Promise鈥攕ending BCS students to any state college or university tuition-free, $60 million in infrastructure investment to repave roads and removing blight. And despite a record year for homicides, he pointed out that overall crime in the city is down.

Is that good enough for another term?

"I think that I have done everything I can and doing everything I can will continue and I鈥檓 committed to do more."

"Serving as mayor, of my hometown as a son of Birmingham is an amazing opportunity to make your city and your communities better," Woodfin said. "I grew up right here, a family that literally lives all over this city. There is a strong commitment to make it safer."

"We can do that when everybody keeps their head out of the sand. Everybody is in it and committed together."